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Location:

Puyallup,WA,USA

Member Since:

Apr 15, 2012

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

I've been running since I was a 7th grader in 1988. At Washington High School (Parkland, WA), I ran on the cross country team and did the 800m, 1600m, and 3200m in track and field.

In college, a hamstring injury and IT band pain ended my college competitive racing almost before it began. With the help of my cousin, Preston, who was in Physical Therapy School, my injuries healed and I began running again.

In the 2000's my goals shifted to attaining a BQ. After making nearly every mistake possible in the marathon, I finally BQ'd and then ran Boston in 2010.

Personal Records:

1600m: 4:31 (1992)

Marathon: 3:09:41 (2012) 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Get my body weight below 180 lbs

Race a  sub-40 10k

Consistently run 40+ miles/week 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Sub 3 hour marathon PR 

Race a sub 5 minute mile... one more time! (Last time I did it was when I was a teenager.)

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Last Mastertrack day. Then went to the Puyallup Fair.

I've done some calculations on predicting my marathon time. The late Jim2, a well-respected and frequent contributor to the Runners World Online Forums, left a legacy of articles on the internet pertaining to running. One of the articles is on predicting a marathon time.

One of the best ways to predict a marathon time is from your current 10k time and your average weekly mileage. I don't have a 10k time but I can calculate it from my 5k times. My average mileage for the past 12 weeks has only been 30 mpw.

According to Jim2's article, you multiply your time by a factor based on your mileage. For 30 mpw, the factor is 5.5. For 40 mpw, it's 5.0. I did these calculations on a spreadsheet and came up with these possible goal times:

Conservative Jim2 time: 3:36 (8:15/mi)

Fastest Jim2 time: 3:13 (7:22/mi)

Midpoint Jim2 time: 3:35 (7:49/mi)

 

Some other goal/predictor times:

Portland Marathon PR: 3:27 (7:55/mi)

Marathon PR: 3:14 (7:24/mi)

BQ: 3:10 (7:15/mi)

McMillan Calculator: 3:02 (6:58/mi)

Daniels VDOT table: 3:01 (6:56/mi)

 

I feel like I have better than a 3:30 in me. I think I'll set my slowest goal to be a new Portland PR (3:27).

My BQ marathon pace (7:15/mi) feels a bit fast, but it's so much slower than what the calculators predict and it is close the the fastest Jim2 predictor time. I'll set BQ as my fastest goal (3:10).

The fastest Jim2 predictor would be a 1 minute PR for me, so this will be my main goal time (3:13).

Who knows, maybe I'll readjust these goals as the race nears.  

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Comments
From DLTheo on Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 15:21:38 from 155.130.107.41

I predict you'll blow past Jim2's fast prediction time. He didn't know how tough you are. Plus, you've been losing weight haven't you?

From Carl on Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:48:58 from 24.19.78.45

I'll have to weigh myself again. I'd like to get below 180 lbs, but it looks like I'll be lucky if I'm under 182. But hey... each pound equals about a minute.

From I Just Run on Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:13:30 from 67.79.11.242

Wow...that's all pretty scientific. Can you please predict my next marathon pace?

Hope you are pleased with your performance whatever it is!!!

From Carl on Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 13:43:11 from 24.19.78.45

@ IJR: I'll give it a try. The calculators/tables work best if you are running 60-70 or more miles per week and have some recent 10k or 1/2 marathon times.

From I Just Run on Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 14:28:36 from 67.79.11.242

Carl, I will be running 45-50 miles by marathon time. I will probably never go back to running 60-70 miles. I also believe I can reach or beat my previous race PR's.

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